Pandu : Doctor! Have you seen the news from Lucknow
- last week - a large crowd actually looted the bazars....
Advocate Ansari : Times are indeed very bad - disturbing
- dirty. In Bombay too there was a violent clash between
two sets of people. Arson too.
Doctor Damu : Yes! There seems to be scant respect for
Law and Order. Surely a situation that cannot be tolerated.
It all of course depends upon the capacity of those
in power - they should see to it that order is maintained
and the supremacy of law assured. That is why they are
vested with power.
Advocate Ansari : That exactly was what the AICC President
emphasised at the Tialk Ghat Meeting.
Prof. Pandu : Sir! I have read his speech with an amount
of interest and respect it deserves and my view is,
that the President was interested in attempting to damage
the image of the DMK rather than discoursing on Law
Advocate Ansari : That of course is true. It was a down-right
attack on the DMK .... just to damage the image of that
Prof. Pandu : And Sir! The damage to the portrait of
the C.M. was accomplished with gusto earlier by the
procession arranged for celebrating Independence. The
Government has become inefficient, the police incapable
- that is the verdict of the President...
Doctor Damu : .... Based on what factors, Sir? ....
Prof. Pandu : Who are we, Doctor, to question great
men even while they indulge in fallacies? The President
speaks - and the multitude should hear. 'Listen and
learn - question not - for that would be disrespect
to the President' - perhaps that is the dictum.
Doctor Damu : Sarcasm apart Professor! Please let us
know what prompted the President to pass such a sweeping
verdict - about the state of affairs here - while Naxalbari
has shaken the very foundations of Law and Order - while
the Shive Sena has let loose violence in a volume and
Prof. Pandu : Ah! You forget Doctor, that in those states
it is not the DMK that is in power.
Advocate Ansari : Who is in power is not the criterion
Professor! What are the measures taken by that Government
to maintain Law and Order....
Prof. Pandu : Even before discussing that Mr.Advocate,
should we not find out what exactly is meant by a break
in Law and Order? If assaults or hooliganism, stone-throwing
or street fighting are to be considered symptomatic
of a break in Law and Order, no day passes without such
dirty incidents. Not that I condone these incidents.
Nor do I subscribe to the view that these are inevitable.
My point is, if these places where these dirty affairs
take place are to be classified as places where Law
and Order has broken down, well, I can only say that
these dirty incidents ....
Advocate Ansari : Sir, I would put it this way. One
can say that Law and Order has broken when the Government
there is over-powered by hooligans, or when the Government
connives at it, condones it, or sits with folded hands
unable to bring the culprits to book.
Prof. Pandu : That Mr.Ansari is a correct appraisal
....! No Government can escape this fundamental duty
and if it does then it should abdicate its position.
It was reported in the press that in Naxalbari, the
police force found it very difficult to cope with the
situation generated by violent mobs. There seems to
have been almost a guerilla war. It is then that one
talks about the break in Law and Order.
Advocate Ansari : Only where there is organised violence
and defiance of law, widespread, continuous can one
talk about a break in Law and Order.
Prof. Pandu : And yet, the President chose to chastise
the DMK as incapable of maintaining Law and Order -
and he was addressing a mammoth gathering - Law and
the police force maintained complete Order - it was
there and then that the President spoke in such a vein.
One, strange to their method of propaganda and one who
had no time to study the facts here would have come
to the hasty conclusion that there is mob rule here,
none is safe, properties are damaged and cruelty reigns
Doctor Damu : And what after all can be gained by such
Prof. Pandu : Why Sir! Does not our Constitution say,
that whenever and wherever, Law and Order breaks down,
the Centre should intervene, dismiss the Ministry and
introduce the President's Rule?......
Advocate Ansari : I too was thinking about that. The
Congress leaders seem to be banking their scheme - and
it is to raise a hue and cry that Law and Order has
broken - and it is time for the Centre to enter and
take over power.
Doctor Damu : None in his senses would subscribe to
this view. These men to talk about Law and Order is
the funniest part of the political melodrama being enacted.
Is our memory so short as to forget the chain of disturbances,
riots and direct actions, followed by repression that
was the order of the day during their regime?
Advocate Ansari : The Congress regime was marked by
continuous troubles, agitations, riots and direct actions
of a varied nature ..... and yet they raise their accusing
finger against the DMK ...... Nothing but prejudice
Prof. Pandu : Why rake up the past Mr.Ansari, we can
as well cite the present. Are those states controlled
by the Congress free from strife and riot, agitation
and hooliganism, violence and blood shed? And did these
stalwarts attribute this state of affairs to the incapacity
of those holding power? No. They dare not! Vituperative
propaganda has generated violence, and there is a Sena
to conduct it. Shops are looted, huts burnt, men stabbed
and open ultimatums given. Is this due to the incapacity
of the ruling party there - the Congress Party? Will
those who raised a thunder at the Marina, charge the
Bombay Chief Minister with incapacity? They dare not!
They dare not even state that there is no law and order
in the State of Maharashtra. Why? Because they are not
interested in the general problem of maintenance of
Law and Order! They are interested in finding out ways
and means of discrediting the DMK rule and invoke the
President's rule, and ultimately Mid-term elections....
Advocate Ansari : And they have also charged the police
as having become a tool in the hands of the DMK. Reputed
for its efficiency the police force of our State has
degenerated because of the DMK, says the President of
Prof. Pandu : Mr. Ansari, if you but go through the
back-number of any journal - say of last year or the
year before last, you will find almost identical accusations
raised against the then ruling party, the Congress.
Doctor Damu : And the Congress Party promptly repudiated
all such accusations.
Advocate Ansari : More than that, when during the language
agitation the Congress C.M. brought in the Military
force to quell the riots, and maintain Law and Order,
there was no talk about the Centre coming in or dismissing
the Ministry for its inability to maintain Law and Order.
And I may point out here, that one can with justification
state that Law and Order has broken down, when the Government
unable to cope with situation, commissions the Military
Doctor Damu : At least if there is any direct action
of a virulent type, continuous and disturbing one can
say that the Government of the day has not got a grip
over Law and Order.
Prof. Pandu : That, Doctor, is a pertinent point. There
was the Dock Workers Demands Day in Bombay, the other
day. Massive demonstrations were held in front of the
office of the Port Trust. Traffic was held up. The entire
city was affected. Yet, nobody talked about either inefficiency
or incapacity of those in power in Bombay. Why? That
was exactly because, one, it is run by the Congress
Party - and two, Hon'ble Mr.V.P.Naik, Chief Minister
of Maharastra will not tolerate such a criticism coming
from any quarter. He would have turned round and asked
sternly, which State can be entirely free from such
demonstrations and disturbances, and who is that Canute
who can attempt of command the waves.
Advocate Ansari : And more than that these Congress
leaders are not interested in unseating the Naik Ministry
- it is Congress!
Prof. Pandu : Exactly! Thousands demonstrated in Bangalore
against the Ministers there - as they were infuriated
by the Minister's policy and attitude. Hundreds of them
were arrested. The disturbance was of no mean dimension
..... And yet, no condemnation emanated from the Congress
Advocate Ansari : No talk about break in Law and Order
- no talk about the capacity or otherwise of those in
Prof. Pandu : Mr. Nijalingappa would not have allowed
such strictures ..... he would quote voluminous instances
to prove that in Tamil Nad under the Congress regime,
there was rioting and repression...
Doctor Damu : But do they not realise - these Congress
leaders - that the people will make a comparative study
and then dismiss the charges as flimsy and born out
of sheer prejudice .....
Prof. Pandu : In Saurashtra there was a virulent agitation
over the question of Location of the University. Untoward
incidents happened. The President of the Congress kept
quiet. Not a day passes without a strike or a lock-out,
demonstration or disturbance - one day it is the telephone
people, one day it is the coalminers, the other day
it is the postmen, in one place it is the teachers in
another place it is the Airman, there was actually hungerstrike
by some teachers before Mr. Desai's residence, .....
When all these incidents take place, none comes forward
to pass strictures against the rulers .... Only here,
do we hear the 'War drum' beaten by the Congress leaders.
Even 'below-average' people can understand that a deep
game is being played - a scheme planned - and that is,
how to topple the DMK, in Tamil Nad.
Doctor Damu : I don't think that the Centre would succumb
to such machinations, .....
Advocate Ansari : Nor do I think that the Centre is
strong enough to pick up a quarrel.
Prof. Pandu : That, friends, is not the important point.
The DMK as far as I know, is least worried by these
tactics. We will remain as long as we are allowed to
remain - and contribute our share for bettering the
common man. If unable to tolerate our presence a the
seat of power, Congressmen contrive to persuade the
Centre to unseat us, Well, we bid good-bye, and go back
to the people to report, and await their next verdict
- that is the declaration they have made times without
Advocate Ansari : Mr.C.Subramaniam declares that the
DMK is bankrupt of policy or programme and has not any
brilliant record to show to the people.
Prof. Pandu : Mr. Subramaniam? Oh Yes! He is to become
the new commander of the battalion! Widely travelled,
Mr.C.S. is always known for his sharp intellect. Sharp,
I said, not sound! I was told that he has raised this
question over and over again - What has this DMK Government
done, that is remarkable or revolutionary ... and the
answer is I think simple and straight, and it is this,
what is it that the Congress Governments in Andhra,
Karnataka, Maharashtra and Gujarat have done - let him
show that dazzling record - we shall then compare that
with the record of the achievements of the DMK. He ought
to have given a comparative picture..... In Maharashtra,
Mr.C.S. ought to have thundered forth, if he could,
in that State and under the Congress regime prices have
come down, poverty has been driven out no day passes
without a new factory coming up, it is all roses there,
what have you got here in Tamil Nad ... dismal is your
record, dreary your achievement. While we were in power
deserts blossomed, but under your regime, earth is scorched,
people starve, rivers dry up, the Sun refuses to rise
and the moon to smile - Get out, you 'incapables' and
let us in .....! - such ought to have been the talk
.... is he not a doughty warrior - has he not withstood
a barrage of criticism standing on the floor of the
Parliament, during that Ameerchand Affair! I forget
that a report is to be published - about this episode.
Advocate Ansari : Professor! Do you know, why the Congress
leaders talk about a six months period...
Doctor Damu : What is this talk about six months period?
Prof. Pandu : Oh! That! Doctor! The Congress leaders
stated that they would not opposes the Non-Congress
Governments for six months.... Mr.Ansari is asking me,
what is the significance of this time limit - Why six
months? Why not three or nine .... The significance
is not explicit Mr.Ansari, but I think that the Congress
people are influenced by the story about Vikramaditya
- it is said about him that he would rule in his domain
for six months in a year, and the other six months he
would reign in the Wilderness. Perhaps six months is
the utmost limit for the Congress to be without power
and position, beyond that, they perhaps think they cannot
exist. The point is, they are terribly afraid about
the time factor. The longer the DMK is in power, the
stronger it becomes! They want to begin their assault
right now, for they think that one year hence or two
years hence, the DMK will become unassailable .....
Doctor Damu : One fact we should admit. It will be very
very difficult for them to be without power having tasted
it for twenty long years! Memories about yester-day,
about those days when the 'chapprasi' was there with
his 'salams', the elite with its. 'good-mornings', the
Packard at the portico, and the plutocrat at the parlour,
come with a gush; they heave a sigh and control their
tears, look around them all bleak and cloudy - then
apprehension oppresses them - one can understand their
plight. What will be the mood? These fellows who have
robbed us of our royalty, damn them, .... they ought
to be driven out, bag and baggage ....
Advocate Ansari : You are right, Sir! Even at the time
when the DMK had only the Madras Corporation in its
hand, the Congress became furious - was not able to
tolerate that situation ....
Prof. Pandu : And so launched a vituperative attack,
unleashed allegations, assured their partymen that the
DMK would be driven out.
Doctor Damu : But they did not succeed. The DMK announced
that the Ripon buildings is to become the gateway for
Fort St. George. And they carried out their assurance
Prof. Pandu : The DMK's record in that aspect is really
remarkable. They would become the ruling party in 1967
- the Congress leaders ridiculed the very idea! These
men, dream! Day dream! They are duping the unlettered
who support them blindly. They are going to lose what
little they have gained .... perhaps they would be washed
out ... annihilated once for all.
Advocate Ansari : But that prophecy so loudly announced
was proved to be false.
Prof. Pandu : I have only to slightly alter the proverb
and say, Congress proposes but God disposes ....
Advocate Ansari : Having realised that their power of
judgement about the future was proved to be wrong, should
they not be more cautious at least the next time...
Prof. Pandu : No Sir! Like the gambler, they stake more
Advocate Ansari : Ah! That reminds me Professor, that
I should cut short the pleasure of your company and
rush home to study certain papers connected with a case
on hand, .... it is a gambling case ....
Prof. Pandu : Do not gamble with cases, Mr.Ansari .....
Doctor Damu : I know the case and in a way am connected
with it ... You are Mr.Ansari referring to Sait Sunderlal.
Advocate Ansari : Yes! He, along with his friends were
arrested .... charge is gambling ..... actually they
were playing Rummy.
Prof. Pandu : I remember to have read some days ago
that in one court it was held that Rummy too comes under
the classification of gambling.
Doctor Damu : And because of that, Sait is terribly
upset. He is having a slight blood pressure, and I happen
to be in charge of him.
Prof. Pandu : Which means that you too have to start
.... well, to one he is a client and to the other he
is a patient .... poor man! Convey my sympathies to
Advocate Ansari : Do you hear that Doctor! Always that
Doctor Damu : But Mr.Ansari how sweet is his company!
How delicious his talk.... But we have to start, come
on; and goodnight, Professor! goodnight.
(Home Rule - 27-8-1967)